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if youre bogging in the sand just start in second gear

So right away in this you address one of my biggest questions, one of the time on the highway w/ other folks. The 6th gear and someone said a 15tooth gear would give you all you need for the roads(70mph). I estimate now that I'll be an 80% - 20% rider of the roads, then trails? So the extra weight of the Rally along w/ proper suspension/tires, ect ect is the way to go. But you've done a whole grocery list from levels 1-3 >> > It just lets me know what IS possible. "Priceless" Nah, but at least I know. I love the linear approach. visualizing it for us ! peace

my first and last adventure bike was a moto Guzzi V85 tt. Gorgeous Bike. Hated it. Never buying an ADV again.

Hey Shonk, how’s that 301 kit running after 7 months? I’ve just ordered mine, hoping for good news on use after some time.

WoW, the intent for any bike is such a personal thing from money & down the line from there. I've only recently discovered this version of the 300 by Honda but it's got a few things I like but honestly I am particular to Yamaha....maybe b/c it's blue but no matter, this bike has most the things stock that I want. As I save my money, I have a list of 7 dual sport bikes that I've done like this one in getting ALL the info I can about pro's/con's, all the possible upgrades I want/need, and how feasible it'll be for me to do them. My reasoning runs kinda parallel to yours but you've actually explained it verbally & visually which very few people do. Like I said, I just found the Rally model while looking at prices locally & KUDO's for the rear gas tank. I'd never heard of that "mod" & now I'll find your video to add all of this into my Dual Sport list & breakdowns. You've done a pretty good job of how you've laid out this info.... it's powerful in my opinion but I'm not moved by the guys who buy bike after bike to mod them for a channel. Some are great but I feel you sincere blood, sweat, & even some tears in this deal. Thanks for that.... you ought to have more subb's. peace mate

Ahahahaha 100% accurate!👍🏻😎👍🏻

Everything in this could be solved with having the right tires for the job.

Honda ct110 would do me, deliver mail on the way

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Price a TFT screen or headlight off a big adventure bike, you'll be shocked

As I look to possibly purchase this bike, I saw a new muffler put on & saw the guy pulling off plastic's that looked weak as if they'd break easily? Seems it doesn't take a whole lot? I actually asked someone else IF they think it might be wise upon buying this bike new = that you pull all the plastics, wrap em' up & store then, then buying a set of plastics to use in everyday use? I've seen this on more expensive Plastic's but I couldn't help but wonder if that might be wise on this bike as well? I'm gonna watch this & perhaps you can tell me your thoughts on what I'm asking? I don't own a bike but I like this Rally version & saw she's got a lot of plastic stuff w/ plastic clips - looked weak to me but you'd know more, I can see you are dealing w/ my fears..... thanks man, peace

Why suck a small upgrade? From 286 to 301 sounds like a lot of money/labor for a small increase? I'm gonna watch but even the Honda 150L big bore adds about 70CC or so, forgive my asking. peace

Working my way through this series. Good stuff. Impressed by the life of the Michelin Tracker and Starcross thus far.

Yeah. They got me too. I almost bought a used GS1200, but settled for a 2012 650 Vstrom ($5300). The vstrom was not the off-road adventure machine i thought it would be, but the fun-to-ride perfect touring/commuter it became. I'm learning off-road stuff with a 300L. It goes everywhere the vstrom can't. There is no unicorn motorcycle so be prepared for at least 2 bikes in the driveway. It's ironic that the more I ride the 300L off-road, the better I am off-road with the vstrom.

I think if you buy a BMW 1250gs and think you are going to be able to ride off road - you're probably dreamin. However on an unsealed road and a couple of creek crossings - no problem. I live in Sydney - takes me close to 2hrs ride to even get to a dirt road!!! Australia is a big place so a 300cc bike won't do it as a tourer - usually need a couple of day so I have to have luggage! So an adventure touring bike is great for me - that's what I want - great for touring the dirt roads. Really I think - dirt touring go big - off road go small and buy a trailer. Not sure what you do with the mid size adventure bikes???

Tired of HD, more because of the BS posers. Struggle on jap sport bikes. Not into Jap cruisers, might as well ride HD. So a big adv bike looks a good choice. Good on road, gravel or tar, easy to ride, but if i were going dirt munching, id get a real dirt muncher. And as for the fella on the pan america, dude, street tyres in the mud only going put you where you were before.....on yer ass. 😂 ❤ Just saying.

I will disagree. 1 - 100 hp give's you option drive 150-160 km/h without issue and with comfort. + cruise + abs + tracktion control + multimedia + a lot of other benefits 2 - yes you need it. More comfort more time at bike.

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I've never understood the appeal of huge heavy powerful bikes, especially for adventure. The biggest and most powerful bike i had was V-Strom 650, brand new. It was a perfect touring bike, and i took it lightly off road. But i was so scared to scratch it, i barely went off road. Then i sold it, and got a 1996 1 cylinder BMW F650 which i dropped all the time and flung around with 40hp. Guess which bike i had more fun on and did more adventure on. I always laugh when i see these BMW GS1200 dudes with every single OEM BMW accessorie, shirt, helmet, boots, etc that money can buy. With perfectly polished prestine $50k bikes that will never see a spec of dust in their life.

What are you talking about?? The forks bottomed out on a 3” jump?! C’mon man. 🤦🏻‍♂️ This whole video is blurry!

If you go long distance and offroad i would have gone with the bmw 310gs ore ktm adventure 390 ore a 650gs

absolut correct what you say !

Nice one mate...just a quick question..well 2 actually. What's a stage 4 conversion as opposed to say a 2 and 3?. And how much do you reckon the bike weighs? keep up the great content

I like the T7

As a product designer who used to work in marketing, not only you're absolutely right, as it also applies to every other product, be smartphones, cars, tvs or even digital products and services. We develop products that no one needs, and then we try to convince people that they really really need that thing. Not proud of that... xD

I bought the GT Pro model of Tiger, because for me its a touring bike. Taking it on anything other than gravel roads really is more trouble than its worth. I have a 300L for trail riding, and honestly, in some spots, an even smaller bike would be better.

Could not agree more. I bought the SA-R in 2017. Took it out on a singlr track a few months later. I nicknamed that day the 'trail of tears". After that i took it on long hauls and was able to take some dirt and forgotten roads on the Rockies. It handled that great. It was comfortable, powerful and agile. Put 48k on it until i traded it in last week for S1000XR. I realized i missed the gearing and geometry of a sport tourer. Big adventure bikes are probably the best jack of all trades bikes you can find. Marketing jerks are what they are. The bikes are great though for what they offer. If i eber choose to go back on gnarly back country trecks it will be on a 390. For now my XR can handle dirt and unmaintained roads just fine and its a hoot on the black top!

Trash in one off, deffo worth the crash protection before taking off road!

This was great. As an American in the Philippines, I bought a little 125 scoot first. Does 95% of what I need, but I fell into a group of very experienced adventure riders and occasionally we end up in absolutely crazy off road situations, that we rarely know is coming. One of them sold me their Suzuki VStrom 250 SX. I ride it 95% of the time now and it can do *almost everything the bigger bikes can do. Skill and judgement does the rest. As mentioned, if you really play hard, you have to be able to pick the bike up. I can always do that. Soo glad I didn’t get a bigger bike. Great vid.

Hi, what is the exact name of the game you were using? It seems to be a good way to practice roadbook reading, don't you think? Thanks.

That guy is just dogging that 450. And 300 As if he scared to death. I bought a new Honda CRF 450R.L in 2022 rosharim pipe vortex ECU Gold O ring chain Under the handlebar mirrors. Raised up the rear light and license plate right under the Fender super cross tires. Also Changed gearing better for the street my 450 FRL Would just eat those two bikes alive and be gone You're only tacking those bikes up to about five grand at the most Either way, you're making the 450 look bad. When it is truly the opposite!!!!!

Your vids are always honest and genuine, enjoy them. Have you done an updated CRF450RL with ECU and pipe yet? I watched the stock one, you said you were going to do a follow up I can't seem to find it.

brutal truth !!!! f'kin love it 😂

I don't usually comment. I just read xD. Been motorcycling since 17, that was 23 years ago. Tried different bikes of different sizes and weights (I'm just a casual rider). I'm on my CRF 300 Rally for three months now. I very seldom use my other bikes anymore, neither the lower CCs (125) nor the bigger ones (650 to 1250). I find the CRF 300 Rally well balanced. Just like what you have said, "I can go anywhere", as it is more agile, versatile and easier to operate. I've seen videos of some people doing cross countries just by using dirt bikes, like the KTM 500 exc, e.g. rtwPaul of MOTOREK. Many can master heavier bikes to tackle more challenging/technical roads, and yet still challenging to do so most of the time. As a casual motorist like me, I don't have to do that on the 300 Rally. However, and finally, to each his own. Happy and safe riding to all :) Edit: But I'm itching to try and find out how the new BMW F900 Enduro performs or feels on different types of roads. xD

Thanks for the aweskme video Shawn! Did you install the Gen 4 or Gen 5 tower?

You seem to have overlooked the point that adventure bikes need to be exciting on the highway too , and many ride two up. 36 hp isn't doing that. Do you NEED 150 hp? Of course not, but it's fun as hell on the highway, but of course, it needs to be toned down in the dirt. You can use any bike to do anything. Any bike can be an "adventure bike". Honestly, I don't see anyone trying single-track, technical stuff on the big adv bikes. In the Triumph manual, it says "for light off roading." The marketing people may be overselling them, but I think that most people that actually own them are happy with what the bike is technically capable of, even though they may not have the ability to use it to its potential. This is also true in the automotive world.

I love my Suzuki VStrom1000. Any riding “off tarmac” is on gravel roads. Not dirt, not sand, not mud. Certainly not single track. That’s what I have my DRZ400S for

Very scientific n accurate analysis😂

Are you going back to stage 3?

Upgraded from a Versys 650 to R1250 GSA. It made travelling long distance more pleasurable, and that's what I do in 99% of my rides. I took it on unpaved roads a few times but I am not delusional enough to think I can copy those athletes in commercials.

I feel like I watched a propaganda film against adventure bikes, lol. The high horsepower and all the traction aids are for on road, because as you said, they are touring off road bikes. So they need to be fun on pavement too. Yes they suck at deep sand, and technical single track, but the average rider can go pretty far off road and is able to pick it up by themselves. I agree that the marketing is a lie, because they are not going to replace a dirt bike or proper dual sport. But you are giving them less credit than they deserve.

Mid-size

Can ride my KTM 790 almos any terrain. Said that, you have a point for 1300cc and over.

in spanish we call them mid-range, not mid weight. And all up from 800 is not mid for me... cb500x open this market in 2013, obviously rivals launched more power and cc, but starts to loose logic ( except tuareg). I think actuall "mid" is the small version of the big ones of each mark: ktm 1290...ktm890, gs1200...gs800, africa twin...transalp, etc.

Get a 250cc or 300cc adv bike and just ride. Heck, get a 150cc if you are lighter in weight. See how much fun youll have. Its not how much power, its how much experience of a rider you are. Get the experience first then youll know what you need. Adv is designed for long road and semi offroad. A line between a cruiser and a dirt bike. But dont have the full luxury of either bike.

Anything over 35 horsepower is just wheel spin.

. 'Interesting ' 😎 🤪 🙃 .

Haha, if I was beaten by a heavy 300L, I would just go home😢

Notice how no GS rider is able to defend or justify his oversized, overpriced tank in the comments.

They're silly top heavy two wheel tanks. Uncontrollable off-road as shown here. Owned by insecure aggressive idiots who think it somehow makes them masculine - when we all know they're just posers.